"Fortis Smyrna...I've read the other reviews and I felt the need to submit my own. In every place in life, you get out of it what you put in. There was a lot of turmoil and a lot of frustration with staff, but there was a huge lack of effort from so many students. Attitudes of ALL kinds and a mix of character. The students ranged from 20-50 yr old avg of 20 somethings... maturity is only that of the beholder and it is not "high school" it is life! Every school has its ups and downs, but I truly believe that I received a top notch education. Gossip is everywhere and what you see is not necessarily what is going on behind closed doors, good and bad. Everyday in my career I can still hear my instructors voices pushing me to be better, stronger, and more confident in my abilities. The students are all coming from different stages in their life and looking to succeed as best they can in their situations. Even the turmoil helped prepare me for "real life". I am grateful to EVERY instructor, even the one I hated the most. They taught me that most important in life is, seek and you shall find. If you can see obstacles as opportunities you will go far. I'm a huge fan of Fortis and the HYG program. I never agreed with the crap and want/ed this program to thrive. But it is a young department in which every term they seek to grow and improve. I believe that the biggest problem at Fortis, like everywhere else, it is run by humans. Ppl make mistakes and some are bullies and some are sweet and caring and helpful and bottom line, no matter how they go about their tasks, EVERYONE there truly does want the students to succeed! I'm thankful for Fortis Smyrna and I highly recommend this program. Don't read into all the bullsh** because everyone experiences everything differently. Ms. JL, I thank you for teaching me to shut my mouth and just say yes ma'am, I'm a better person and a great hygienist bc of it! BTW, the school part of your career is only the beginning... in practice is where you really are the RDH! Good luck!"

Eric Goodman, Ph.D.

Responded: 2/21/2017

As the Vice President of Education, I'd like to thank you for sharing that you are a "huge fan of Fortis" and the dental hygiene program! We are thrilled to hear you recognize that we truly want students to succeed and that you'd "highly recommend the program". You are so right that in life you get out of it what you put in and that attitude will certainly serve you well and you continue to do great things in your career. Thanks again for the wonderful praise and that you're a great hygienist now - we wish you the best in your future!

DH graduate 2016

Reviewed: 2/10/2017
Degree: Dental Hygiene
Graduation Year: 2016

"Dental hygiene program in Fortis College brought me to a complete new way of life: knowledge, professional skills, organization, speed and confidence in my profession). All the hard work that I invested into this program paid me back. With a new DH program director Mrs.G., the overall experience in this school was great. She does go an extra mile for every student. She will help to bring all your potential to maximum degree. Instructors are well trained and always put an effort to help students every time they asked for. I know this school very well since it was Medix as I graduated there in a dental assisting program. Mr.F. was my master instructor. He trained and motivated me highly that dentistry is in my blood now. Later I decided to go same school to achieve a higher degree in dentistry. It was some bumps at the beginning as the DH program still was a new one at this school. So I am an RDH now. You cant imagine how thankful I am to my director and instructors of Fortis college, my financial aid people who helped me to overcome all barriers in order to become a licensed dental professional in a state of GA. THANK YOU!"

Eric Goodman, Ph.D.

Responded: 2/21/2017

As the Vice President of Education, I'd like to thank you for sharing that attending Fortis brought you a new way of life and all of your investment paid off. We'd love to make sure your feedback gets back to the great instructors you mentioned so I'm wondering if you'd be so kind as to let us know what campus you attended?

Feel free to post that here or I'd invite you to contact me at egoodman@edaff.com so I can learn more about the wonderful experience you had with Fortis. Thanks in advance and we wish you the best in your future!

Waste of money

Reviewed: 2/3/2017
Degree: Nursing
Graduation Year: 2016

"I'm so happy to say I'm no longer a student at the For your Money college, this school is a TERRIBLE place to invest your time and money, people walk off the street with no prior teaching experience and become a full time teacher on your dollars, are teacher constantly told use to Google are questions because she didn't know the answer because she never read the book that she was teaching from, I had teachers that would become angry if you asked questions period, I was told by serval faculty members that this is a self learning environment and you can teach yourself more than I can would laugh and walk away as if my time, future and money was a joke. The Dean of nursing is a narcissist that is just as less resourceful when you have a issue with your educational rights, don't go here with any expectations of passing the NCLEX unless you have outside help go check out the turn over rate for there instructors and passing rates for NCLEX I surely wish I knew these small helpful tips before I went, I had no previous background in nursing but always had a passion for caring for others and decided to attend that CIRCUS act. They have no working lab equipment, nor practical stimulation equipment that they promised when you do your walk through, the teacher didn't believe we needed to wear gloves during needle sticks and told us to do as we pleased during lab time, she would lie about students to other faculty members so they would give those students a hard time as well, they applied for sometime of grant which was a COG grant and later I found out this was illegal because I wasn't a associate degree student but they got the money, I graduated and was on the Dean's list for 3 terms and still had to take the NCLEX 2 times before I passed it, now that I'm working after only applying at 6 different facilities because not a lot of places hire graduates from Cincinnati Fortis because of there reputation of being incompatent, lacking in qualified skills, and there inability to train their students at the appropriate nursing entry level. Last but not to say the least when we went for our clinicals the sites would not even allow for us to do patient care because what was said was that a past instructors told one of there on staff nurses that we had experience with needle sticks and insulin injections and when several students where ask by the Director of Nursing before being allowed to perform the procedure what was the actual process of the procedure no one knew the correct degree of inserting the needle the Director told the instructor we can always observe but would not be allowed to perform the procedure because of the patient risk factors, the same instructor told us in the next class she forgot to show us what to do and if we had read the book the procedure some student said yes so she tried to encourage us to do it on each other, with no one willing to do it she became upset and said if you don't do it here we will not be allowed to do it at the facility!!"

Truth

Reviewed: 1/30/2017
Degree: Nursing
Graduation Year: 2016

"This school is a nightmare. The DOE, Terri had an affair with one of our classmates. From the moment you enter the door, unprofessional. The OBN has been all over them. They lie and could care less about your education, just taking your money. This campus goes through staff like crazy. They fire or run off amazing instructors and keep the poor ones. They have so many that don't teach. You'll wait and wait for class to begin and the instructor never shows. I wish someone had warned me."

MTJ

Reviewed: 1/25/2017
Degree: Laboratory Technician
Graduation Year: 2017

"This SPT program is very poorly run. The professors do not have a clue about anything and often times offer input that is completely false. Very difficult to work with. It's a waste of time and money. They should pay you to go to this school because you will be teaching yourself."

Eric Goodman, P.h.D.

Responded: 1/31/2017

As the Vice President of Education, I'd like to thank you for sharing your perspective on this program as many other students in our SPT program have had a very different experience. Having said, that tt would be helpful to have more information regarding what specific campus you are referencing so we can explore this further?

I'd also invite you to contact me at egoodman@edaff.com so I can learn more about the context of your perceptions and understand more about these general statements. I look forward to visiting with you soon and thanks in advance for helping us improve.

Eric Goodman, P.h.D.

Responded: 1/31/2017

E. SORIA

Reviewed: 1/25/2017
Degree: Laboratory Technician
Graduation Year: 2017

"This institution has helped me develop skills needed to work in a hospital setting. The instructors are knowledgeable and competent to teach. During my time here I made connections with other students. In order to succeed one must put the time and effort."

Ashley

Reviewed: 1/6/2017
Degree: Nursing
Graduation Year: 2017

"Fortis College in Cuyahoga Falls has some very unprofessional management there. They are very unorganized and all around a very terrible school. I wish I would have went elsewhere. Unless you want rude emails and schedules the day classes start save your money. They will tell you multiple times they are accredited until you get in the college and try to move to a different school."

Reviewed: 12/18/2016
Degree: Dental Assistant
Graduation Year: 2014

"Not worth it.not at all. you won't able to work at every dental office as EFDA. this school just want your money. As soon as signing up for this school, you won't be able to cancel/ no refund. you will be upset for every single step at this school. I posted this to just let people know. if you like your time and money do not wasted at Fortis"

Sarah

Reviewed: 12/8/2016
Degree: Nursing
Graduation Year: 2016

"The absolute best school for nursing in the Dayton area. The professors are great very helpful. The staff are nice and very competent. Do not listen to the haters, they are only jealous, dropped out or could not pay. I was able to fulfill my dreams of nursing with their program. They just got a new DON and she rocks. She really knows how to run a program. They have the nicest staff and you never feel like just a number like you do at other school. It is a very personal experience. My favorite thing was the SIM lab, something other schools do not have. It was very informative and made learning the nursing environment very rewarding, well worth your time!"

K.W.

Reviewed: 12/8/2016
Degree: Laboratory Technician
Graduation Year: 2017

"It was ok there. Some instructors were very good people. Could be a little more professional. Overall experience was good. They should perhaps add a few more class choices. More medical and a few more technical jobs, such as electrical, mechanical, and welding,"

Kia T

Reviewed: 12/8/2016
Degree: Laboratory Technician
Graduation Year: 2017

"I Really enjoyed my experience at Fortis. Everything there was very organized and professional. The staff was very polite and helpful, they are open to answer any questions and concerns that you may have. The entire staff including instructors are very willing to work with you on any situations you may have that you think can hinder from you completing school. In class, you will learn a lot of excellent information and skills that will help you be very successful you go out in your field."

A peters

Reviewed: 12/8/2016
Degree: Laboratory Technician
Graduation Year: 2017

"I learned a lot. The teachers were very nice and we'll versed in everything. Having to get to go to a hospital to get hands on is wonderful. The school is very clean and the business office is very helpful. I really enjoyed being at Fortisand would recommend anyone to come here."

T. Green

Reviewed: 12/8/2016
Degree: Laboratory Technician
Graduation Year: 2016

"Attended the Fortis College nursing program and only have great things to say about it. The teachers take their job extremely serious and you have to work really hard to pass the classes. This program is not easy so if you were not a hard worker find somewhere else. Passed the ISCHMM my first try thanks to Fortis"

drewnin

Reviewed: 11/19/2016
Degree: HVAC
Graduation Year: 2015

"Class size very small, incoming students mix with already students and may take an advance class before a basics class, making learning hard if not taken in order. After graduation, we never had our promised graduation ceremony it's been over a year already."

Don't do it

Reviewed: 11/17/2016
Degree: Nursing
Graduation Year: 2016

"Complete waste of time. All the teachers except 2 don't care about their students and do not want to see them succeed. The Dean of the nursing program is a sneaky, leery, no good piece of blank, she doesn't communicate with the students, she changes the rules weekly, she is not there to help the students or make the school better, she is just there to make sure the school gets paid. The president of Fortis College Centerville is a card board cut out of a president. He gives special treatment to female students and allows them to "pass" and move on even if the fail the class. There has been numerous rumors of him have personal, and sexual relationships with students. He also has removed all trash cans from every class room to prevent students throwing trash away. Fortis college Centerville has there students do clinical at location where they can not do patient care and they are forced to sit in a conference room for 10 hours at a time and do nothing. The clinical coordinator does everything but her job, and thinks she is the best nurse to walk the face of the earth. She tells her students one thing in the class room and does the complete opposite in the clinical setting. This school is a complete waste of time and money, all they want is your money and don't care about their students"

Patsy Johnson

Reviewed: 10/22/2016
Degree: Nursing
Graduation Year: 2016

"I would first like to say every school comes with problems and you have to decide what problems you want to deal with. I highly suggest not to attend this college for many reasons and the most important is that there are NO advocates for the students. No matter what any of the staff may say with their words there is no one there to support you in any real decisions regarding your profession and schooling. I would be very cautious of the fact that this school is only about money for one it's a business and once you are in they are getting their money regardless if you pass or fail. This college says one thing bit their actions have a total difference. Nursing is a career where you have to be flexible but they only expect that from their students if you are night student please be careful for you WILL have day clinicals. Many of us have had to quit our jobs to pursue this career. I know many people do not have the luxury of just quitting their jobs so that may go to school and this is something they will not tell you in admissions. Also understand that the worst culprit of this do not care because I already have my money attitude is the president of the school. I have overheard him talking to a professor as to why he thinks all nursing students only want the easy way out. Believe me if you are pursuing this profession the last thing you want is the easy way out. I highly recommend to go anywhere else but try to go somewhere where your credits will transfer. You could face be I ng left with over 40 grand in debt because of this school and not even be able to go anywhere else. I wish I would've done some research before I went to this school because even though the students become your family I don't think I would chose those college again."

FedUpStudent

Reviewed: 10/10/2016
Degree: Licensed Practical Nurse
Graduation Year: 2016

"I wish I would have done research more thorough then I did when I enrolled. The reviews for this location are on point to the truth. It is sad how many students are just being tossed around at this campus, having the exam answers given to them from the instructors right before the exam. I have taken 6 or so HESIs now and the last 2 my instructor willingly helped each of us on any question we need, just so she'd have a higher pass score. When I tried to confide in the director of nursing she said I was over exaggerating and I should be thankful I got the grade I received. There is a lot of false advertising at this school in regards to the evening program, they don't have enough instructors so the schedule changes between day hours and nights. The whole point in evening classes is to be able to keep your job to support your family and pay your way through school. I had to go from 40+ hour work week to 10. How is that fair? It's impossible to live like that. I know several students who are having the second problems with their jobs as well and some of them are no longer able to work. The clinical locations are far, which isn't that big of a deal most of the time, but when they are 8 hour days it can become a struggle. ESPECIALLY when you show up and do 4 hours of clinical work at a cute and come to find out we weren't even aloud to be there due to the school failing to sign contracts. We, as students were working, doing treatments, imagine how much trouble that could've caused!!! Unbelievable and of course once again, the instructor said we need to act like it never happened and to not talk about it. Sad and unprofessional. The lab hours are a waste and a joke as well, lab is required so when we have lecture in one room we stop mid way through, go to the lab and continue the lecture there. No lab work is ever done, they can just write it off that it was since we were in the room. Great learning experiences. Not. I don't understand how a school that lies, hides and cover their mistakes, give students exam and HESI answers can keep their accreditation. I am 100% ashamed to say that I attend this college. I sat in on an NCLEX review class, they didn't realize I wasn't even supposed to be in the room, they were reviewing the questions and answers from the 2015 exam. Never did they review what they learned, but they taught us how to remember answers quite well. The president is aware of all that is going on and yet he refuses to address any issues all he worries about is someone eating a salad or chips in the classroom, not the fact that he is running a fraudulent school. I have also, like others have stated in their reviews, contacted the Ohio board of nursing and education. I would much rather start over from a real institution who truly cares about more than their pass rate. This is what causes schools to lose their accreditation and close their doors. Nothing at this campus represents any sort of professionalism or honesty. It's crooked and the audit they just had was rigged and we'll prepared for. Funny how the students know about that isn't it? I know 3 students who aren't up to date on their immunizations who are in clinicals this quarter, they just lied and printed off fake ones because they didn't want to pay to have them. Those forms look like they were written by a child and how they got overlooked is scary. I feel as if I have been wasting my time and money at this place. I know many will ask why I stayed if it was so bad, the answer I have is because ITT closed, hondoros doesn't have better ratings and it's "fast tracked". I hear every year how things are getting better, the only thing that's improving is the Dean, director of nursing and instructors hiding issues and lying. Let's not forget about the improvement on exam grades. So thank you Fortis, for my great exam grades. Our exams are over 7+ chapters at times, the school doesn't make the exams so they don't know what to teach. In one book that has well over 25 chapters, we honestly reviewed 4 chapters in a quarter. Can anything be done about any of this? I would really like to know what I can do. I am going for my RN in Jan so I'm glad I won't be a LPN with no education out in the field, I feel bad for patients out there who may have some of these students as their nurse and caregiver."

Robert L Anders

Responded: 10/17/2016

Please email your contact information at randers@edaff.com

Thanks

Robert L Anders, DrPH, FAAN

VP of Nursing

Robert Anders

Responded: 11/2/2016

Colleagues

Making a decision to apply to a nursing program is indeed a critical one. The major is very challenging and unfortunately not everyone will be successful. I encourage you to visit the school with a set of unbias eyes. The visit could include an opportunity for you to potentially meet with current students so you receive a balance review.

Best of luck on your journey towards being a nurse.

RL Anders, DrPH, ANEF, FAAN

VIce President of Nursing

My son and me

Reviewed: 9/30/2016
Degree: Nursing
Graduation Year: 2015

"The nursing program is a joke, but the tuition pid is not funny. Teachers not qualified is the big thing, no teachers hours, no tutoring for the nursing classes, have to get a pass to go to the bathroom. The learning environment is like elementary school. The director will not listen to any student. This place is worse than pathetic. We wasted about $9,000 on one semester there. My son passed but hated it and wouldn't go back. We're told student loans would cover about $1200 as I paid the rest in cash. lol and behold we now have a judgment against us for that with not much explanation. Go to a real college! All of the community colleges have certified professors and programs. Have been told a nursing degree from here isn't well respected in the industry. We got sucked in by the intake person who was very good at her job, and thinking he could get his AA RN in less time. If you look at their true graduation rate it is very very low. They lied about it."

Robert Anders

Responded: 10/3/2016

Hello

I am very sorry your experience was not what your son had expected. Would you mind providing the name of the school? You can contact me at randers@edaff.com

Robert L Anders Dr PH FAAN

VP of Nursing

Never Again

Reviewed: 9/14/2016
Degree: Licensed Practical Nurse
Graduation Year: 2016

"I am about to enter my last quarter at this place. Most would be happy and relieved, I am not. I am scared. We were just passed along, the instructors honestly just added a couple points to our exams so that we would reach the passing grades. No one in my group should be where we are now, I can make 2 instructors that need to be looked into. The study guides they started to give us are currently question by question that goes in the order of the exams. I failed a class and was able to get passed along, it's that easy. The president at this school is a joke, all he cares about is the pass rating of the exit exam and those words came out of his mouth. The Dean of nursing is pretty much non existent when it comes to having issues she'll just talk to the instructors and once again just pass us along. Would I recommend this school? Absolutely not. This is at the Centerville location in case anyone needs to know. I am currently in the process of getting in touch with the Ohio board to address my complaints. Shall I continue to contain about the clinicals, as they are even worse?"

Robert Anders

Responded: 9/22/2016

Colleagues

Thank you very much for this dialogue.....nursing is probably one of the most challenging major with so much that must be learned in a very short period of time. You are absolutely accurate in your assessment that success requires significant time studying and ownership of your own learning. Faculty should be there to coach and mentor you along the learning journey. If there are specific challenges please share them with your faculty, Dean, and as needed Campus President. The eventual reward of becoming a nurse will make the journey well worth the effort required.

Scammed

Reviewed: 9/8/2016
Degree: Medical Office Administration
Graduation Year: 2014

"Do NOT enroll at Fortis. The instructors are not qualified to teach. The coursework is a complete joke and financial aid will coax the maximum amount of money out if you. If you want an education, go to a legitimate two year, state accredited school. The credits you earn at these "schools" do not transfer anywhere. I cannot stress enough how big of a mistake it would be going to one of their schools. Just don't."

Eric Goodman, Ph.D.

Responded: 9/13/2016

As the Vice President of Education, I'd like to thank you for sharing your perspective on what constitutes a legitimate school. It would be helpful to have more information regarding whether or not you actually attended this school and if so, what campus and program you were in so we can explore what seems to you as unqualified faculty and the coursework you reference?

As an accredited institution we have standards regarding faculty credentials. In addition, unlike other state accredited schools that you reference, we have accountability to various agencies on our students retention, employment and licensure. As a result, you'll find our programs are designed with the relevancy to prepare our graduates for success in the career field.

Also, the decision regarding transferability of credits is always at the discretion of the receiving school (or where you may transfer to) so there may be variability in the acceptance of credit.

Once again, I'd invite you to contact me at egoodman@edaff.com so I can learn more about the context of your perceptions and understand your vague generalizations. I look forward to visiting with you soon and thanks in advance for helping us improve.